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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.26 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: n4DuL AGAINST OR I WILL CANCELL MY 2 ACCOUNTS
Goodbye!!
I find it verry funny that fron the looks of everyone against..ignoring alts.... that 70+% or so of all those against come from 3 or so alliances....
adapt or die nano***s.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cubana69 AGAINST.
Nanos are the only way this game actually gives the sensation of "flying" your ship. More, imho this nerf will ruin what's been done by the "need for speed" philosophy and it withdrwas focus for the actual skill of the pilot. So, vote against this nano-nerf and against CCP's "shooting-your-own-foot" Dev's that contradict the whole game's spirit and the previous work.
cheers
You do realize the first thing they did in the Need for Speed initiative was to nerf speed the first time.....right? Because everything moving soo fast puts a strain on the servers and makes lag much more pronounced...
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Tigeress on 26/07/2008 22:42:40
Originally by: Inertial Edited by: Inertial on 26/07/2008 22:24:48
Originally by: Steel Tigeress
Originally by: Cubana69 AGAINST.
Nanos are the only way this game actually gives the sensation of "flying" your ship. More, imho this nerf will ruin what's been done by the "need for speed" philosophy and it withdrwas focus for the actual skill of the pilot. So, vote against this nano-nerf and against CCP's "shooting-your-own-foot" Dev's that contradict the whole game's spirit and the previous work.
cheers
You do realize the first thing they did in the Need for Speed initiative was to nerf speed the first time.....right? Because everything moving soo fast puts a strain on the servers and makes lag much more pronounced...
What people are railing against isn't a nano nerf, its this nano nerf, CCP is taking it too far (reminds me of a surgeon trying to remove a tumor with a sledge hammer, would be better off with a scalpel wouldn't he?).
btw: 300 people have supported this thread at least (350+ with those who failed to check the support box) while in the other thread about 100 people have supported. Going with this, it seems like a lot more people don't want this fix, than the number of people who want it
EdIT: page 15 snipa! "BOOM HEADSHOT"
Except that most people dont post at all unless they are unhappy.
Somone said it in a different thread and its probably pretty close to true:
90% of people who are happy dont post. 90% of people that are unhappy post.
Its why when there was no nerf on the horizon, the forums were filled with people complaining about nano's, and only a few people responded to them in defence of nanoing all the time. Generally regurgitating the same tired "counters" to nano's which all entailed either flying a BS so you could fit a hvy neut, or flying a nano yourself... those were not counters, its pidgeonholing.
I'm for the changes because it rebalances the ships. Those that were meant to be fast still will be, Inties and frigs. Cruiser sized ships wont be as fast as they used to be, they will be catchable by the things meant to catch them, like small drones, the small ships, and some missles.
Warp Scramblers are getting a buff, a good thing cause who used them anyways. The web nerf is actually a AB buff in disguise.... a tacler with a Scrambler and a web will slow down a ship with a MWD more than befor, by like 2%, but will only slow down an AB fitted ship by 50-60%.
Ships will still be able to be fast.... somone did the math in the dev thread on the blog, and the dev was mistaken. It wont take snakes to get a Vaga up to 4K, a t2 fit vaga will still pass that without implants.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:52:00 -
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Wow, alt voting ftl....
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.26 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Steel Tigeress Wow, alt voting ftl....
Don't worry too much. The CSM admins have a way to see how many actual accounts support rather than individual supports (which can obviously be 3 per account). When this gets to the wire we'll be able to call for an accurate indication of player sentiment either way (this and the pro-nerf camp).
Thats good to know. I have 2 accounts but still only vote 1x because I'm just 1 person.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.27 01:32:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832369&page=6#152
Quote: Yup, I'm all for it, as I've allready made some calculations. It's not as bad as people think...
Vaga still going 4+km/sec with cheap T2-stuff and without HG Snakes etc... Ceptors still doing easily over 5km/sec, and even my Rapier will have no troubles reaching 3km/sec with the proposed changes
Maybe folks in this thread should go do some of the math too befor calling the WAAABULANCE  |

Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.27 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: WAX ORTON do not nerf stasis webifiers
Its not a web nerf, its a Afterburner buff in disguise.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.28 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Toramii I can see the need for ludicrous speed to be brought down a notch with slight nerf to some speed mods and implants.
But the proposed webifier nerf with the new MWD disruptor funcitonality hits Gallente blaster boats even more. Other weapon systems are close on their heels without the range penalties.
This change has absolutly no effect on Blaster boats if the ship you are fighting against has a MWd equipped too. Here's the breakdown:
If you are a blaster boat, you will be webbing your target. If you are within web range then you are withing scram range too. Guess what, after the changes, turning off their MWD, and webbing them down 60% will ruduce their speed by I believe 92%... Thats SLOWER than you can tackle them now.
This change Benifits a blaster ship very slightly.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2008.07.29 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Tigeress on 29/07/2008 17:04:45 Edited by: Steel Tigeress on 29/07/2008 17:04:13
Originally by: AdmiralFreeman
Originally by: Yaay my god, 300 people and their 500 alts all voting against, go figure
Think twice before speaking. You can only support the vote with one char per payed account.
Wrong, the CSM's just have a way of seeing how many accounts accually voted, and not characters.
There is nothing that limits the number of characters you /sign in this thread with. Since there are 3 characters per account, it is perfectly feasable for there to only be 13 pages of actual votes against this nerf.
Judging from the ammount of alts I've spotted where 3 people in a row look the exact same, or 2-3 in a row have the same name with different spellings. I'ld say this thread actually only has around 20 somthing pages of actual votes.
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